05-10-2017, 10:35 AM
Any takers on when he show up at Steeler Head Quarters? It's is still not known if he has been cleared, but I would have to think it is imminent. Like maybe he shows up for mini camp?
(05-16-2017, 04:03 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ](05-16-2017, 03:59 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: [ -> ]One of them being a healthy running back in the playoffs, but that's just another excuse, right?
DB, Tomlin RAN THE WHEELS OFF Bell ... 63 touches in a seven (7) day NFL span before we went into New England ... Is it any wonder Bell blew a tire ??? ...
See, you see things black and white ... I see things in living color !!!
Had Tomlin actually been able to score TD's in Kansas City the previous week instead of merely kicking six (6) FG's ... he could have taken Bell OUT of that game early and iced it with #34 !!! ...
(05-16-2017, 04:03 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ](05-16-2017, 03:59 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: [ -> ]One of them being a healthy running back in the playoffs, but that's just another excuse, right?
DB, Tomlin RAN THE WHEELS OFF Bell ... 63 touches in a seven (7) day NFL span before we went into New England ... Is it any wonder Bell blew a tire ??? ...
See, you see things black and white ... I see things in living color !!!
Had Tomlin actually been able to score TD's in Kansas City the previous week instead of merely kicking six (6) FG's ... he could have taken Bell OUT of that game early and iced it with #34 !!! ...
(05-16-2017, 01:09 PM)Cali-Steeler Wrote: [ -> ]Troy Polamalu didn't care for Tomlin's ways... What does that say? I'll take Troys point of view anytime > Link > http://steelcityblitz.com/2015/03/05/sou...es-tomlin/
(05-16-2017, 01:09 PM)Cali-Steeler Wrote: [ -> ]Troy Polamalu didn't care for Tomlin's ways... What does that say? I'll take Troys point of view anytime > Link > http://steelcityblitz.com/2015/03/05/sou...es-tomlin/
(05-16-2017, 01:44 PM)Krunch Wrote: [ -> ]As Troy alludes to, the Steelers have not remained, "The Steelers" under Tomlin.
(05-16-2017, 10:58 PM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]st answer the question Lake. until you do, it's all hot air:Quote:One more time Lake, who was he going to play at RB? Williams and his blown knees? Toussaint? Heck he couldn't find a hole on Kickoffs, let alone a counter trap. Oh, we should have let Nix run. Great idea Lake.
DB, you keep proving my point over and over again ... You just presented your own diatribe about how PATHETIC Tomlin's roster actually is ... there's no depth behind the starters, though Tomlin preaches "next man up" ... Tomlin absolutely produces ZERO in terms of roster developed players behind the superstars he relies on through his horribly hit-or-miss draft experiences ...
(05-16-2017, 10:58 PM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:One more time Lake, who was he going to play at RB? Williams and his blown knees? Toussaint? Heck he couldn't find a hole on Kickoffs, let alone a counter trap. Oh, we should have let Nix run. Great idea Lake.
DB, you keep proving my point over and over again ... You just presented your own diatribe about how PATHETIC Tomlin's roster actually is ... there's no depth behind the starters, though Tomlin preaches "next man up" ... Tomlin absolutely produces ZERO in terms of roster developed players behind the superstars he relies on through his horribly hit-or-miss draft experiences ...
(05-16-2017, 02:50 PM)mcmillenandwife Wrote: [ -> ](05-16-2017, 01:44 PM)Krunch Wrote: [ -> ]As Troy alludes to, the Steelers have not remained, "The Steelers" under Tomlin.
Sorry, but Troy didn't allude to anything in this article. There's not a single quote verifiably attributable to Polamalu.
You may as well source this rag for your Polamalu quotes:
Hey Tim, This Hillary Story is 100% true!It happened about 15 years ago and she named her baby Rexdawg....
(05-17-2017, 12:41 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]DB, thank you for edifying me on the intricacies of the "Mike Tomlin is a good head coach" issue. You should know, if I were alone in my convictions I'd feel like a fool ... I'm FAR from alone in my convictions ... I know HUNDREDS of Steelers warriors clamoring at the concept of the Steelers moving past Tomlin and onward to greatness ...So let's just end it here DB ... I'm right !!! ... You're wrong !!! "he's an affirmative action hiring "
The last time you got into an argument online with someone who thought they knew all there was to know about health care reform, gun control, gay marriage, the Pittsburgh Steelers, climate change, sex education, the drug war, Joss Whedon or whether or not 0.9999 repeated to infinity was equal to one – how did it go? ...
Did you teach the other party a valuable lesson? Did they thank you for educating them on the vagaries of the issue after cursing their heretofore ignorance, doffing their virtual hat as they parted from the keyboard a better person? ...
No, probably not. Most online battles follow a similar pattern, each side launching attacks and pulling evidence from deep inside the web to back up their positions until, out of frustration, one party resorts to an all-out ad hominem nuclear strike. If you are lucky, the comment thread will get derailed in time for you to keep your dignity, or a neighboring commenter will help initiate a text-based dogpile on your opponent ...
What should be evident from the studies on the backfire effect is you can never win an argument online. When you start to pull out facts and figures, hyperlinks and quotes, you are actually making the opponent feel as though they are even more sure of their position than before you started the debate. As they match your fervor, the same thing happens in your skull. The backfire effect pushes both of you deeper into your original beliefs ...
So let's just end it here DB ... I'm right !!! ... You're wrong !!! ... Mike Tomlin SUCKS as a game day field general and the proof of it shows week in and week out, as it did during the Kansas City playoff game last season and the New England embarrassment ... It shows time and again as Tomlin's Steelers routinely play down to far lesser opponents and put themselves into uncompromising positions every single season ... It shows, too, that Mike Tomlin is a horrible judge of player character, is tolerant, on near equal terms to Marvin Lewis, towards offensive player disciplinary matters off the field, and doesn't have a clue how to critique his own malfunctions to make HIMSELF a better head coach ...... by the very team that instituted affirmative action hiring of head coaches in the NFL, and many of us believe THAT is the reason the Steelers are, as an organization, willing to look past Tomlin's shortcomings ... and no other team in the league is more capable than the Steelers to cover his shortcomings and present an acceptable product than are the Steelers ...
He's NOT ALL horrible ... he's a nice guy and he has good qualities and he's been through the fires ... but he is constantly out coached and he has constantly won games by the skin of his teeth that should have been easily won ... He's wasted away the greater part of Ben Roethlisberger's peak performance years as an athlete, and many of us diehards see this with clarity ...
DB, you go on believing ... I believe far more in the Steelers as an organization than I believe in the man in charge of leading them to their next Lombardi ... If Tomlin happens to win one more, he proves me wrong, and I can liSo let's just end it here DB ... I'm right !!! ... You're wrong !!! ..ve with that ... If Tomlin fails to win one more, can you live with the reasoning that i was right in my views? I doubt it. You'll find another excuse within your bag of idiosyncrasies, I'm pretty certain ...
(05-17-2017, 02:32 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]Wow! There is a lot I agree with here Lake. I'll take it on numerically.(05-17-2017, 01:50 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: [ -> ]If he is as bad as you say he is, please explain to the board why he is still employed? This is year 11. Don't you think that's enough time to do an evaluation? Please tell us why an almost BILLION DOLLAR enterprise would employ such a failure that doesn't have a clue?
The answers to that aren't as readily evident as you'd like to have them presented to you DB ...
My take:
1. The Steelers are comfortable in their successes and their wealth ... their Billion Dollar enterprise is functioning quite nicely, thank you ... That New England has schooled them might create a short-term push, but for years the Steelers have settled into a sort of complacency. They do just enough to appease the hard-core fans ... The fans aren't stupid and they see what New England has accomplished in leap-frogging the Steelers as the elite NFL organization model ... Make no mistake the pressure on Tomlin is about to get cranked if the Steelers continue to fall short ...
2. The Steelers as an organization have MASTERED the realities of the business side of pro sports and the NFL ... The Steelers KNOW they will fill their stadium seats each passing year with rabid fans, as do most of the other NFL teams ... and those other NFL teams that fall upon hard times with their fans due to bad public relations very quickly snuff out the problems (colin Kaepernick). For the Steelers as long as they are selling tickets and merch, and that's the clear case, they are winning the game. The Steelers are masters at capitalizing on the public images of their elite athletes, and they KNOW it's a never ending cycle of product sales for them ...
3. I see the Steelers as a Leftist organization publically and politically ... they pushed forward a very Leftist hiring process that is on equal terms with Affirmative Action ... their owner was (RIP) a devout political Leftist ... As such Tomlin is safeguarded in his position. Tomlin accomplishes just enough to warrant his safekeeping ... But real hard-core fans see right through it ...
4. The organization, well versed to its deep core in Leftist media, has mastered the realities of controlled media ... Every Steelers beat writer who is granted access to the innards of the team and its facilities has become a "YES-MAN" megaphone for all the "wonderful ways of the Pittsburgh Steelers" ... and NONE OF THESE GUYS has the ability to step back and be constructively critical of the team, its coaches, or its players ... It's a tight lidded system and few outsiders can penetrate its ranks ... like Leftist politicians are covered by the mainstream media, you can't find a whole lot of media types pressing upon the ugly little themes that are clear to most of us ... There are a few Blog Sites out there from Steelers fans who actually rip it up pretty nicely during the season, that are growing in popularity ... And the lemming fans are too blinded by their long held cognitive biases to see things with truth and clarity ... It will go on until it becomes blatantly obvious to those fans, and as such to the Steelers organization and then ALL HELL will pressure the Steelers to make their change ... The Steelers will do it tactfully ... Mike Tomlin will be granted a "front office" promotion in time ... He's a very good employee ...
It's all good in Steelersland, DB ... they have a "winning" product ... but that lasts only as long as the fans accept something short of a Championship ... and my experience is that cycle is limited in its peak-to-trough-to-peak timeline ... The fans are getting restless !!! ...
(05-17-2017, 04:53 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt that Steelers are locked in to Tomlin. Lovie Smith has been fired, Romeo Crenall has been fired Art Schell has been fired twice by the same team without public uproar. This I can guarantee, the Steelers will leave no stone unturned to find a top notch coach, ok no cracks about the rock they found Tomlin under...LOL!!Quote:3) We may part company here too somewhat. True, there is the Rooney Rule, but Tomlin is not the only minority coach out there. Just looking at this logically, most of the players of this game are "Minority" players. Really? Among players, just who is in the minority? In the NFL there was an undeniable problem, a glass ceiling in the coaching ranks. How in the world can a guy like Rich Kotite get a job before Art Schell? It had to be addressed. Tomlin is not a hold over because of racial implications, it's because they think he is doing his job. I'm sure they could come up with a list distinguished minority candidate , probably of higher NFL pedigree and experience than what Tomlin brought.
... and in the Steelers case, are they locked into keeping a mediocre head coach around for fear of backlash now? ... What if they actually DID fire Tomlin? ... They've empowered an entirely new problem of a social P.C. force behind their future decisions to hire and fire as a result of the Rooney Rule ...
You and me as fans of the team ... we're stuck with it !!!
(05-17-2017, 04:56 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:As for Robert Kraft: I'll bet he's Right Wing Libertarian...... ( Cold Hearted Capitalist SOB!!!)
There you go admitting that RIGHT WING cold hearted Capitalist SOB's make for winners, DB ...... Yes, why YES! ... They sure do ...
(05-17-2017, 05:55 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]Yes and now stand back and watch as holes get poked into your "OBVIOUS" ...
(05-17-2017, 12:23 AM)Cali-Steeler Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Tim, This Hillary Story is 100% true!It happened about 15 years ago and she named her baby Rexdawg....
(05-17-2017, 06:50 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ](05-17-2017, 06:26 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: [ -> ](05-17-2017, 05:55 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]Yes and now stand back and watch as holes get poked into your "OBVIOUS" ...
OK Smarty, have it your way Gloves are off! Pistols at 50 feet??
... you already lost DB ... go back to your 1979 videos ...
(05-18-2017, 08:48 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]If it doesn't stop Tim ... I'm out ...
(05-18-2017, 08:48 AM)The Lakelander Wrote: [ -> ]This place used be a very enjoyable hangout to discuss and debate Steelers football ... It's a far cry from being that now ... I came back because Regi asked me to, and a few others from the FB group suggested they'd be back to try it out once again ...
I have strong views ... I like to share those views and debate the issues ...
I truly get the Tomlin lovers ... hundreds of us rehash together all their arguments each and every year ... Further, like the rest of the fans, I have to live with Tomlin too ... but I don't have to be a Tomlin yes-man, or for that matter even a Steelers yes-man ... I see the organization heading in the wrong direction and I'm extremely comfortable in my views ...
DB can't handle an alternative viewpoint it seems ...