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President Donald Trump called out former 49ers quarterback Colin Kapernick and other NFL players on Friday for protesting the national anthem, expressing what millions of football fans have already registered by tuning out.
But NFL officialdom, Hollywood, the mainstream media, and left-wingers in all quarters have distorted what he said, to the point where entire teams felt obligated to protest — something.

Here are five bad arguments driving the hysteria.

1. Trump attacked freedom of speech. The First Amendment does not generally extend into a private workplace, any more than it gives me the right to come into your house and hector you with my opinions. No one has ever told Colin Kapernick or anyone else not to march in protest, attend a demonstration, or hold a sign on a sidewalk. What fans object to is that he is protesting on the clock. He has no right to do that, and Trump is correct that NFL owners — if they had any spine — ought to tell the protesting players to get lost. If you doubt that, try a thought experiment: what would happen to a player who wore a Nazi armband to opening lineups? What about his freedom of speech?
2. Trump launched a racist attack. This is the fashionable argument among the intellectually lazy and perpetually aggrieved. But there is nothing racist about objecting to the sort of behavior that is so radical that it is almost never done. Proof: the same NFL players who knelt for The Star-Spangled Banner at Sunday’s game in London stood for God Save the Queen, the anthem under which the British conducted the slave trade, along with colonialism and various other awful endeavors. The resort to claims of racism is the surest sign that Trump’s critics are clueless.
3. Trump used coarse language. Have you ever played, or even watched, any team sport? Also, what else is new?
4. Trump has more important things to worry about. Undoubtedly true — but then ask where the outrage was when President Barack Obama filled out his NCAA brackets on TV each year — or, for that matter, when he discussed the merits of Pitbull on live radio with a DJ called “Pimp with a Limp.” Unless you’re a Trump supporter worried that he is using the NFL dust-up to cover for his vacillation on DACA, this is not a valid complaint.
5. The protesters are the true patriots. Ask Pittsburgh Steelers lineman Alejandro Villanueva, a U.S. Army veteran of three tours in Afghanistan, about how he found the courage to stand up to his entire locker room and walk out, hand over heart, for the national anthem at Soldier Field in Chicago. His team lost — deservedly so — but he will be remembered as the real winner of this day — not just for his stand on the field, but for his courage off it.
Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. He was named one of the “most influential” people in news media in 2016. He is the co-author of How Trump Won: The Inside Story of a Revolution, is available from Regnery. Follow him on Twitter at@joelpollak.


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This is brilliant. I could hear the hammer hit the nail squarely on the head.
I agree with several of these points, but personally, I wish Trump had kept his mouth shut because this has ruined pro football for me. 

The profanity, coming from the POTUS, was unnecessary and beneath the office. There was no reason for it.
I understand Trump speaks more directly than the typical politician. I don't object to it at all. I am weary of the PC crap and obfuscation that spills out of the pie holes of the DC crowd. Trump seems to have a handle on the pulse of most of the Nation. His words ring more true and honest and are much closer to those typically exchanged by the populace in America.

If a comment is hurtful or uncomfortable so be it. I am quite confident much worse language is used by most of those who have objected.

When I ran my meetings, regardless if the venue was in the US or outside our borders, I would occasionally fire for effect. Using verbiage that was not typical for a VP running a division. It mattered not if the attendees were subordinates or the board. Sometimes a tactic like that is the most useful way to get a position clearly established and capture the attention of the audience. It worked for me. I imagine it has worked for Trump. I hope he stays the course and does what he can to make America great again. There are way too many here and elsewhere trying to tear her down.
I could be wrong on this (please help) but isn't protesting your country on foreign soil a crime?

I thought they were trying to pin this on slick willie when he was in Oxford protesting?
Ctown,
I used colorful language to get the attention of my audience as well as demonstrate my passion and commitment to a corporate initiative. The area could have involved competitive activity, engineering advances, chemistry or manufacturing enhancements, financial maneuvers, investments, etc. It worked most of the time so the firm and our shareholders were on board. Nothing was done that bordered on the illegal.

None of my actions questioned US policy or procedure.

I'm not sure what you mean re your slick willy reference. I did have a few issues with governments in my day but most of those were with the KGB. I did a lot of business with the USSR. Enough I guess to raise my profile. All were settled amicably thank God.

Were you just kidding or was I that unclear in my original note?
(09-26-2017, 05:38 AM)sandfan Wrote: [ -> ]Ctown,
I used colorful language to get the attention of my audience as well as demonstrate my passion and commitment to a corporate initiative.  The area could have involved competitive activity, engineering advances, chemistry or manufacturing enhancements, financial maneuvers, investments, etc.  It worked most of the time so the firm and our shareholders were on board.  Nothing was done that bordered on the illegal.

None of my actions questioned US policy or procedure.  

I'm not sure what you mean re your slick willy reference.  I did have a few issues with governments in my day but most of those were with the KGB.  I did a lot of business with the USSR.  Enough I guess to raise my profile.  All were settled amicably thank God.  

Were you just kidding or was I that unclear in my original note?


Chuck is referring to the Ravens and Jaggoffs in London.
I did not get that.

I basically only watch the Steelers. Have little to no idea which teams are playing where. I use my dvr to record games so I don't suffer the agony of commercials or the half time "show". If I'm at the local since I can't get the game at home I would rather take a few sips of beer and chat with friends than watch the Madison Avenue crap.

The nfl has been little more than a diversion for me the past few years. It will become less so now. My interest peaked in the 70's and has ebbed since I left the city and gave up my tickets.
(09-26-2017, 05:58 AM)sandfan Wrote: [ -> ]I did not get that.  

I basically only watch the Steelers.  Have little to no idea which teams are playing where.  I use my dvr to record games so I don't suffer the agony of commercials or the half time "show".  If I'm at the local since I can't get the game at home I would rather take a few sips of beer and chat with friends than watch the Madison Avenue crap.  

The nfl has been little more than a diversion for me the past few years.  It will become less so now.  My interest peaked in the 70's and has ebbed since I left the city and gave up my tickets.

Sandfan,

My post was in regards to the ravens and jags protesting in England. I am not sure but I thought it may be a crime to protest on foreign soil. My reference of "slick willie" was in regards to good old cigar smoking Bill Clinton. During his days at Oxford (as a draft dodger and on the tax payer dime) it was often thought he participated in Vietnam war protests. What can't be disputed was his open letter in which he admitted "loathing" the military.

My question is: is it illegal to protest the US on foreign soil? Did the ravens and jags commit a crime?
(09-26-2017, 06:08 AM)Chucktownsteeler Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-26-2017, 05:58 AM)sandfan Wrote: [ -> ]I did not get that.  

I basically only watch the Steelers.  Have little to no idea which teams are playing where.  I use my dvr to record games so I don't suffer the agony of commercials or the half time "show".  If I'm at the local since I can't get the game at home I would rather take a few sips of beer and chat with friends than watch the Madison Avenue crap.  

The nfl has been little more than a diversion for me the past few years.  It will become less so now.  My interest peaked in the 70's and has ebbed since I left the city and gave up my tickets.

Sandfan,

My post was in regards to the ravens and jags protesting in England. I am not sure but I thought it may be a crime to protest on foreign soil. My reference of "slick willie" was in regards to good old cigar smoking Bill Clinton. During his days at Oxford (as a draft dodger and on the tax payer dime) it was often thought he participated in Vietnam war protests. What can't be disputed was his open letter in which he admitted "loathing" the military.

My question is: is it illegal to protest the US on foreign soil? Did the ravens and jags commit a crime?
no it is not.  Remember Jane Fonda?  All the elite do it.
(09-26-2017, 06:50 AM)Rollers Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-26-2017, 06:08 AM)Chucktownsteeler Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-26-2017, 05:58 AM)sandfan Wrote: [ -> ]I did not get that.  

I basically only watch the Steelers.  Have little to no idea which teams are playing where.  I use my dvr to record games so I don't suffer the agony of commercials or the half time "show".  If I'm at the local since I can't get the game at home I would rather take a few sips of beer and chat with friends than watch the Madison Avenue crap.  

The nfl has been little more than a diversion for me the past few years.  It will become less so now.  My interest peaked in the 70's and has ebbed since I left the city and gave up my tickets.

Sandfan,

My post was in regards to the ravens and jags protesting in England. I am not sure but I thought it may be a crime to protest on foreign soil. My reference of "slick willie" was in regards to good old cigar smoking Bill Clinton. During his days at Oxford (as a draft dodger and on the tax payer dime) it was often thought he participated in Vietnam war protests. What can't be disputed was his open letter in which he admitted "loathing" the military.

My question is: is it illegal to protest the US on foreign soil? Did the ravens and jags commit a crime?
no it is not.  Remember Jane Fonda?  All the elite do it.

Probably nothing will come out of it, but to me it should be investigated as a treasonous act. Seem to remember something about this.
The liberal media will cover the behinds of any democrat, progressive, communist, socialist or liberal to the best of their ability. I've found it is best to ignore their propaganda and let my wallet and vote talk for me.
(09-25-2017, 10:25 PM)mcmillenandwife Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with several of these points, but personally, I wish Trump had kept his mouth shut because this has ruined pro football for me. 

The profanity, coming from the POTUS, was unnecessary and beneath the office. There was no reason for it.

...and had the NFL ignored it and not had mass protests, particularly while in England promoting your country and game, those comments that were 'beneath the Office' would have gone the way of past Presidents appearing on “Pimp with a Limp.”
(09-27-2017, 02:21 AM)RaynorShyne Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-25-2017, 10:25 PM)mcmillenandwife Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with several of these points, but personally, I wish Trump had kept his mouth shut because this has ruined pro football for me. 

The profanity, coming from the POTUS, was unnecessary and beneath the office. There was no reason for it.

...and had the NFL ignored it and not had mass protests, particularly while in England promoting your country and game, those comments that were 'beneath the Office' would have gone the way of past Presidents appearing on “Pimp with a Limp.”

Or good old cigar smoking Bill Clinton and his intern. Was that below the office of the president?
(09-27-2017, 05:43 AM)Chucktownsteeler Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-27-2017, 02:21 AM)RaynorShyne Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-25-2017, 10:25 PM)mcmillenandwife Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with several of these points, but personally, I wish Trump had kept his mouth shut because this has ruined pro football for me. 

The profanity, coming from the POTUS, was unnecessary and beneath the office. There was no reason for it.

...and had the NFL ignored it and not had mass protests, particularly while in England promoting your country and game, those comments that were 'beneath the Office' would have gone the way of past Presidents appearing on “Pimp with a Limp.”

Or good old cigar smoking Bill Clinton and his intern. Was that below the office of the president?

Oh....Chuck.  Really?

That was (wait for it......)

Below the belt.

Lol
(09-28-2017, 03:44 AM)RaynorShyne Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-27-2017, 05:43 AM)Chucktownsteeler Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-27-2017, 02:21 AM)RaynorShyne Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-25-2017, 10:25 PM)mcmillenandwife Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with several of these points, but personally, I wish Trump had kept his mouth shut because this has ruined pro football for me. 

The profanity, coming from the POTUS, was unnecessary and beneath the office. There was no reason for it.

...and had the NFL ignored it and not had mass protests, particularly while in England promoting your country and game, those comments that were 'beneath the Office' would have gone the way of past Presidents appearing on “Pimp with a Limp.”

Or good old cigar smoking Bill Clinton and his intern. Was that below the office of the president?

Oh....Chuck.  Really?

That was (wait for it......)

Below the belt.

Lol

Welcome back, Raynorshyne, that's a good one!
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