1985 Steelers 10 vs Browns 9
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06-09-2017, 10:38 PM

1985 Steelers 10 vs Browns 9

UPGRADE! The dazed look of sheer agony on Art Modell's sad hound dog face as the rain pours down at the end of this game (the final game of the famous "Three Rivers Jinx") still gives me unspeakable pleasure. Like so many games in this series, this game has "that play" -- a crucial mistake by Cleveland that causes them to wilt. Leading 6-0 in the 3rd quarter, rookie QB Bernie Kosar is in shotgun formation on 3rd down when crowd noise causes him to pause and stop play several times while he complains to the officials that he can't hear. The 3rd time Kosar does this, center Mike Baab mistakenly snaps the ball before Kosar is ready, resulting in a huge 12-yd loss and forcing a punt which travels only 32 yds to set the Steelers up at the Browns' 44. David Woodley, subbing for an injured Mark Malone, hits Louis Lipps for 12 yds and then Walter Abercrombie breaks a sprint off left tackle to go untouched for 32 yds and the game's only TD. Former Steeler Matt Bahr hits a 30-yd FG late in the 4th to put Cleveland ahead 9-7, but Cleveland is Cleveland. After pinning the Steelers at their own 18 on the ensuing kickoff, Frank Minnifield is called for a 30-yd pass interference penalty on the first play of the drive. Then on a crucial 3rd & 7, Woodley finds a wide open Stallworth for 16. The Steelers work the clock and grind the ball to the Cleveland 8 and Gary Anderson's 25-yd FG with 9 seconds left hands Cleveland their 16th loss in 16 tries at TRS. A huge thanks to Jay Korber for providing us with this sweet upgrade! 
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06-10-2017, 03:49 PM

Modell looks like he swallowed a mouse. LOL
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06-10-2017, 06:07 PM

(06-10-2017, 03:49 PM)Crash Wrote: Modell looks like he swallowed a mouse. LOL

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06-11-2017, 05:22 AM

That Woodley long TD run was a thing of beauty... called back unfortunately.

Last win in the curse of Three Rivers. I'll never forget how po'd I was the next year at that roughing the kicker penalty, which basically gave them the game and broke the curse. Wouldn't have lasted much longer anyway, but it was still a horrible horrible call.

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06-18-2017, 04:37 AM

(06-09-2017, 10:38 PM)mcmillenandwife Wrote: 1985 Steelers 10 vs Browns 9

Final game of the famous "Three Rivers Jinx." David Woodley plays at QB in a downpour. Gary Anderson kicks game winner as time expires. The dazed look of sheer agony on Art Modell's face at the end of this game gives me such pleasure! Seriously edited huddles (ugh). 

On paper, the '85 version of the Steelers doesn't look much different than the previous edition which went to the AFC Champ.  What do you think went wrong that season?  I was too young to be a fan but I'm sure this 1985 was quite disappointing.
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06-18-2017, 05:34 AM

(06-18-2017, 04:37 AM)Guest Wrote: On paper, the '85 version of the Steelers doesn't look much different than the previous edition which went to the AFC Champ.  What do you think went wrong that season?  I was too young to be a fan but I'm sure this 1985 was quite disappointing.


Well... we were 9-7 in '84 and 7-9 in '85. Two games made the difference. Scott Campbell started 2 games at QB... and lost both games. So if you're looking for a simple answer, maybe that's it: Scott Campbell. But the reality is, the only reason we made the playoffs in '84 was that we were in a terrible division. We were not a good team and I think most fans knew it was somewhat of a fluke that we made the playoffs. 

That said, we were on a bit of a hot streak in '84. We were 6-6 and then won 3 of our last 4 regular season games. In '85, we were 6-6 and then lost 3 of our last 4 games. 

So while it was disappointing (it's always disappointing when you miss the playoffs), it wasn't surprising at all.
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06-18-2017, 06:27 AM

(06-18-2017, 05:34 AM)mcmillenandwife Wrote:
(06-18-2017, 04:37 AM)Guest Wrote: On paper, the '85 version of the Steelers doesn't look much different than the previous edition which went to the AFC Champ.  What do you think went wrong that season?  I was too young to be a fan but I'm sure this 1985 was quite disappointing.


Well... we were 9-7 in '84 and 7-9 in '85. Two games made the difference. Scott Campbell started 2 games at QB... and lost both games. So if you're looking for a simple answer, maybe that's it: Scott Campbell. But the reality is, the only reason we made the playoffs in '84 was that we were in a terrible division. We were not a good team and I think most fans knew it was somewhat of a fluke that we made the playoffs. 

That said, we were on a bit of a hot streak in '84. We were 6-6 and then won 3 of our last 4 regular season games. In '85, we were 6-6 and then lost 3 of our last 4 games. 

So while it was disappointing (it's always disappointing when you miss the playoffs), it wasn't surprising at all.
  Thanks for the reply.  Somewhat disagree about the '84 team being not very good.  They ranked 8th on offense and 5th on defense.  4 of the 7 losses were by a FG or less.  They should have been at least 10-6 because the IND game was a fluke at the end.  

Just looked at some stats from '85.  With the exception of the 5 TD performance in the opener, Malone was pretty bad while Woodley and Campbell were worse.  While the defense remained solid, they did not force as many turnovers.  Overall, I guess I'd agree that poor QB play was the reason for the decline.  Somebody earlier posted that with a healthy Bradshaw, this team wins a weak division and has a chance to go to the Super Bowl.  Maybe so but they'd have zero chance against the Bears.
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06-18-2017, 08:07 AM

(06-18-2017, 06:27 AM)Guest Wrote: Thanks for the reply.  Somewhat disagree about the '84 team being not very good.  They ranked 8th on offense and 5th on defense.  4 of the 7 losses were by a FG or less.  They should have been at least 10-6 because the IND game was a fluke at the end.  

Just looked at some stats from '85.  With the exception of the 5 TD performance in the opener, Malone was pretty bad while Woodley and Campbell were worse.  While the defense remained solid, they did not force as many turnovers.  Overall, I guess I'd agree that poor QB play was the reason for the decline.  Somebody earlier posted that with a healthy Bradshaw, this team wins a weak division and has a chance to go to the Super Bowl.  Maybe so but they'd have zero chance against the Bears.


I hear you. But I'd be careful relying "too" much on the stats. As is often the case, they can deceptive. Keep in mind, I didn't say we were a bad team; I just said we weren't a good team. Our overall talent level was slightly above average. We were a relatively solid team, but in a better division, we would've been watching the playoffs from home. But our coaching was excellent. Noll squeezed every last drop out of the '84 Steelers. One of his best coaching efforts. Great receivers and a focus on the ground game (i.e., controlling time of possession to shorten the game) helped cover the awful QB warts a little and improve our defensive stats. And the defense, while not great, was definitely opportunistic. That said, I don't think their ranking in terms of points was as good as their ranking in terms of yards, which is a sign of a team that MUST establish ball control and eat the clock to win. This was a team that could never, EVER win a shootout. 

Never mind old man Bradshaw in '85... just think if we'd drafted Marino!!!  Scared Marino to Stallworth and Lipps with Chuck Noll prowling the sidelines? 

The only team that was going to beat the '85 Bears was a healthy '76 Steelers team.  Pi_bigsmile  Although I believe the '75 and '78 teams could've probably taken them as well.
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06-19-2017, 12:48 AM

Good discussion. Even in the dark years of the '80s, the Steelers were always tough on Montana and the 49ers. If they had drafted Marino, they win the Super Bowl in '84 and are a contender for the rest of the decade and maybe win one or two in the '90s. Lipps could have been a HOFer if he was consistently healthy and had a decent QB throwing to him.
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06-19-2017, 07:15 AM

(06-19-2017, 12:48 AM)Guest Wrote: Good discussion.  Even in the dark years of the '80s, the Steelers were always tough on Montana and the 49ers.  If they had drafted Marino, they win the Super Bowl in '84 and are a contender for the rest of the decade and maybe win one or two in the '90s.  Lipps could have been a HOFer if he was consistently healthy and had a decent QB throwing to him.

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Nice upgrade just added of this game. Thanks, Jay!  Thumbsup
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