Winners and Losers - Steelers vs Rams
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11-11-2019, 01:51 PM

WINNERS
Mason Rudolph: I know the stats don’t show it and this might not be popular but Rudolph played well today. Gave his receivers plenty of chances to make plays. They didn’t always come through, something you’ll read about in the Losers sections. He was accurate, especially over the middle, and his decision-making was largely sound against a tough Rams’ pass rush that can rattle a lot of young QBs.

TJ Watt: You can practically put the entire Steelers’ defense on here and you wouldn’t be wrong. But I’ll name some of the standouts of this excellent group. Ho-hum, another sack from Watt, and he got constant pressure throughout the game. Entire pass rush of him, Bud Dupree, Cam Heyward, and Javon Hargrave made big plays.

Javon Hargrave: Worth shouting Hargrave out for the pressure/forced fumble he created on the Fitzpatrick touchdown. Just a consistently excellent game. Well on his way to a monster payday in the offseason.

Minkah Fitzpatrick: Another TD for Fitzpatrick, whose done it in back-to-back weeks. Relatively easy score picking up a loose ball and running it in but great ball awareness is a skill. And he’s got it in spades. Kevin Colbert robbed the Dolphins.

Joe Haden: Haden got in on the INT fun, recording his first INT of the year. Great read and finish on the football, coming off his man to find the ball and high point it for the score. Two breakups too, including the game-clinching INT for Fitzpatrick. Defense has just been amazing. The rock of this team.

Danny Smith: I’m sorry I ever doubted you. Smith was ready for the Rams’ punt fakes today. On the first, the Steleers checked correctly and forced LA to take a delay of game penalty. On the second, Johnny Hekker attempted the fake but it was well-defended and picked by Edmunds.

Jordan Berry: Continues his career year. We’ll see how things look when the weather gets bad, it was actually pretty nice in Pittsburgh in mid-November but a solid output from him. 58 yard net on his first punt was a beauty. Even the last punt, that I know didn’t go very far, offered no chance of a return, which is what you’re really looking for in that moment. There might have been a poor snap on a field goal he was able to salvage too. Will have to go back and check.

Mike Tomlin: For taking this Steelers’ team on the brink of elimination, a 1-4 team on the road with Devlin Hodges, to 5-4 and right in the AFC playoff hunt. His 4th and 1 decision to go for it was gutsy, and honestly, probably should’ve failed with how messy it was, but still, turned out to be the correct decision.


LOSERS
Receivers Hands: This game was littered with drops and ball security woes. Steelers had at least four of them: Diontae Johnson, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Vance McDonald, and Jaylen Samuels. TE Nick Vannett had a drop early in the game that was negated by a Rams’ penalty. James Washington had a fumble at the end of a long run while Johnson put the ball on the turf on a punt return, recovered by Vince Williams. Ugly, ugly fundamentals.

Randy Fichtner: Make no mistake. As bad as the player execution issues were, the OC did them no favors. Running on 2nd and long, including a TE draw to McDonald (why?) and at his worst, a playaction sending his QB into his own end zone that resulted in a safety. Players nor coaches helped out today.

Run Game: Which went nowhere again. Not blocked well enough, backs didn’t create either. Steelers averaged well under two yards a carry. Line and backs must do better.

Maurkice Pouncey: Pass protection was generally good but Pouncey’s snap issues have continued. Of course, you know what play I’m referring to. First possession of the game, ball goes over Rudolph’s head and returned for a touchdown. Steelers’ beating Steelers.

Robert Spillane: Never good when a backup LB finds himself on this list. Spillane had the tackle on the Steelers’ first kickoff but flagged twice on the punt coverage team. Not good.


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11-11-2019, 11:23 PM

RB Trey Edmunds has as many career INTs as his brother, Terrell (S).


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11-12-2019, 01:02 AM

RE: Running Game

With Nix on the shelf, we can’t run our various counter traps which have been the cornerstone of our rushing attack since the early 90s. DeCastro and Pouncey are not exactly road graders type. They need space to take advantage of their speed and agility. Right now, we have nobody to take care of the backside blocking, and without it, counters are ineffective and without the threat of counters, it’s open season for defenders to shoot the gaps. What we have been countering with is a dump off pass to a RB about where the LB was.

So if you been scratching your head why we have all these short passes, there it is. Keep in mind, because the opposing defense can play the run on the way to the QB, shortens the time the QB has to find somebody open, which greatly increases the effectiveness of the opposing secondary. It also means that the QB has much less time to go through his progressions, and a fair amount of the time the pocket is not clean.

Being honest, I’d be happier with a stud fullback that can light up a defensive lineman than a star RB.
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11-12-2019, 02:39 AM

As I said in another thread the short passes are to a point making up for the lack of a running game.

I don't know, I OD'd on football this week-end (from college to the pros) and even watching Dallas - Vikes last night our RBs seem dismal at best. Every RB I saw (some were low picks and undrafted, some still college) got the rock and went from 0 to 100 in no time. Our RBs just seem like they're running in mud.


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11-12-2019, 08:47 AM

I disagree with one point, short passes are a fix for not being able to run the ball. Our QB doesn’t have enough time for deep routes to open up. It’s not like Rudolph is getting 4 seconds plus back there.

And that is in this case also caused by a lack of a running game. We need to run, and more than likely will when Nix is back, featuring our counter plays.

You will be amazed at how this will open thing up, not only the rushing numbers, but the ability run deeper pass routes where guys will actually be open
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11-12-2019, 09:37 AM

(11-12-2019, 08:47 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: I disagree with one point, short passes are a fix for not being able to run the ball. Our QB doesn’t have enough time for deep routes to open up.  It’s not like Rudolph is getting 4 seconds plus back there.

And that is in this case also caused by a lack of a running game. We need to run, and more than likely will when Nix is back,  featuring our counter plays.

You will be amazed at how this will open thing up, not only the rushing numbers, but the ability run deeper pass routes where guys will actually be open

We can't run the ball consistently and we can't have Mason go deep every play. The short pass is being used until a running game can be established.


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11-13-2019, 02:20 AM

(11-12-2019, 08:47 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: I disagree with one point, short passes are a fix for not being able to run the ball. Our QB doesn’t have enough time for deep routes to open up.  It’s not like Rudolph is getting 4 seconds plus back there.

And that is in this case also caused by a lack of a running game. We need to run, and more than likely will when Nix is back,  featuring our counter plays.

You will be amazed at how this will open thing up, not only the rushing numbers, but the ability run deeper pass routes where guys will actually be open

Agree. Opposing defenses do not fear the run against us. 
Play action pass plays are useless because we lack any sort of a run game also.

Was watching first half of the niners game last night and Garapolo was looking like Montana because the defense feared the San Frans run game and had to play honest. 

I think it's now time to rebuild the o-line and have some lineman that can run block in an actual three point stance and also pass protect from the three point stance on play action plays. Run blocking in a two point stance aint cutting it.
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11-13-2019, 05:30 AM

(11-13-2019, 02:20 AM)Noll and Cowher teams no more Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 08:47 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: I disagree with one point, short passes are a fix for not being able to run the ball. Our QB doesn’t have enough time for deep routes to open up.  It’s not like Rudolph is getting 4 seconds plus back there.

And that is in this case also caused by a lack of a running game. We need to run, and more than likely will when Nix is back,  featuring our counter plays.

You will be amazed at how this will open thing up, not only the rushing numbers, but the ability run deeper pass routes where guys will actually be open

Agree. Opposing defenses do not fear the run against us. 
Play action pass plays are useless because we lack any sort of a run game also.

Was watching first half of the niners game last night and Garapolo was looking like Montana because the defense feared the San Frans run game and had to play honest. 

I think it's now time to rebuild the o-line and have some lineman that can run block in an actual three point stance and also pass protect from the three point stance on play action plays. Run blocking in a two point stance aint cutting it.

I thank you guys making my point.


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11-13-2019, 09:32 AM

(11-13-2019, 05:30 AM)Chucktownsteeler Wrote:
(11-13-2019, 02:20 AM)Noll and Cowher teams no more Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 08:47 AM)dbsfgyd1 Wrote: ...

...

I think it's now time to rebuild the o-line and have some lineman that can run block in an actual three point stance and also pass protect from the three point stance on play action plays. Run blocking in a two point stance aint cutting it.

I thank you guys making my point.
I've been sayin' that for > 2 years, now...
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